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Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Simon Molendinarius on Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:39 pm

A few days after the events that led to the capture of a Baali at last Court, there will be an interrogation and trial. All Cainites are encouraged to observe.

Welcome all. There need be no ceremony for such an event. Let us begin by discussing how best to ensure that this creature is unable to escape during its interrogation or use any of its dark arts.

I open the floor to discussion.

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Post by CountessaValenciaMontalvo on Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:04 pm

Your Grace, perhaps entering his mind and forcing him to stay and finding out if anyone would come to his aid?

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:36 pm

I will monitor the surroundings and ensure no being, demon or Cainite, comes to his rescue. I have also brought with me a Relic, touched by God. It should repel Ba'ali, so we can place it by the exit. Further, if you would be so kind as to provide me with some of the infernalist's blood and hair I can insure that even should he escape I can always track him.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Domnal Boruma on Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:27 pm

The creature cannot run if his limbs do not work

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Lord Jacob William on Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:25 pm

take him to a dependable place maybe in a place that someone cant just telaport him away

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:32 am

At the site of the death of Azrael, there is a distinct feeling of the presence of God. An aura of faith far more palpable than most relics. A new Sanctuary is under construction within this aura. Perhaps we should interrogate him there. It is unlikely Infernal powers of any sort would function as intended within the presence of God.

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Post by Lord Jacob William on Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:11 am

as long as such a place wouldn't outright kill the creature

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:29 am

I am not sure there is any way to know if it it would prior to moving him there...

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Post by CountessaValenciaMontalvo on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:31 am

So maybe not worth the risk. He cannot run if his mind will not allow him.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Simon Molendinarius on Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:45 am

I would not move him regardless. Such a long trek would be an ideal opportunity to mount a rescue. I would like this handled in as short a time as possible, rather than drawing this out.
Use of telepathy was mentioned. Is anyone skilled in this art?

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by CountessaValenciaMontalvo on Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:21 pm

I cannot read his mind directly, your grace, but perhaps I can force information through his own words, if your grace wishes.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Simon Molendinarius on Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:22 am

Can anyone in Yorkshire provide this service?

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Ichorst the Emissary on Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:14 pm

Ichorst coughs very quietly.

"Without meaning any disrespect for any Cainite able to penetrate the mind of another through powers of the Blood, is such a route wise? Such an interrogation would, to all present save the two, be entirely private. While I am not a expert on the matters of these devil worshippers, I know enough to wonder if they might not be able to whisper unwholesome things that are truly dangerous should their mind be directly connected to another's.

How would we, save another connecting with their mind, be able to discern if they are truly uncompromised at that point. We would be, potentially, trading one infiltrator for another...."
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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:19 pm

"Wise words."

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Post by Simon Molendinarius on Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:04 pm

What would you suggest Ichorst? Your comment is not without truth, but I don't see that the alternative is a better option. Far from it.

These creatures have shown the ability to summon demons, vanish from one location to appear in another, summon the fires of hell with a word or gesture, and befuddle the minds of others. To say nothing of their known ability with Presence and their lesser known talents of corruption.

A telepathic bond can be forged while the wood still pierces the heart. As such, the powers of the cainite will be inhibited. To allow him to speak we must remove the stake and allow actual speech. So instead of one mind being effected, all present would be potentially effected, and we would have no more way of knowing it than we do with the single mind reader.

Instead, the stake serves as a rather reliable restriction. This individual should be unable to bring any of the powers of the blood to bear. Indeed, a third party can observe the aura of the interrogator and watch for changes or the signs of corruption one might see if they were being influenced. We cannot know what a demon might do of course, but the walls of this sanctum have been blessed and protected from such influence to the best of the Churches ability.

Besides, this assumes that there are not already infiltrators in out midst...

The third alternative is to simply end this with a quick death. This would surely stop any chance of corruption, but would serve our other interests very little We would not know of anything else that might be planned. Indeed, an interrogation might allow us to uncover possible traitors. Such a chance would be lost if we were to simply kill this creature.

As I said, I am open to suggestion, but I require positive ideas more than negative assertions. There is difficulty with any road we travel after all, and if we only focus on the negative we won't get anywhere.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:45 pm

A suggestion, Your Grace.

What if we were to force feed it's torpid body blood from each of the Cainites intending to be present at his interrogation for three nights in a row, starting with yours? He'll have overwhelming feelings of love and respect for the whole gathering present to interrogate him. This should somewhat hinder his desire to manipulate or harm us. He would wake up calm and surrounded by his loved ones.

Perhaps if we lace the blood with Opium, he may actually see us as his real loved ones and speak more openly.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Simon Molendinarius on Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:37 pm

Hmmm. Yes. Though we must be prepared for him to be immune to any adoration beyond his infernal masters, this is a good precaution regardless of the method we use for the interrogation.

Speaking of intoxicants, perhaps we should consider those options more. I have seen some potent plants that confuse the mind in my time.

Then there are...less savory ways of reducing the will of a subject. In the service to out Lord such things must be considered.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by MacLeod on Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:55 pm

With what I've observed attempting to kill a Baali is giving him an escape or a path for worse problems to enter. should we attempt to do such it would be wise to be in an area with little that can be damaged and has ways to make a swift escape.
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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Ichorst the Emissary on Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:17 pm

Ichorst turns to each as the words fly.


  "I mean no disrespect, as I said.  I often find that simple solutions can be the best ones.  Intoxicating him with blood assumes he can be bound, I find sometimes that reliance on the powers granted us through rebirth in Caine's image can blind us to more mundane tools which are as effective."

He meets first Simon's gaze and then Marius'....face.

   "Is not your God the direct opponent to this thing?  What if, in the time it would take to feed this thing blood and ensure love and an unwillingness to harm, you cleansed him of his taint?  This need not be an actual cleansing....as long as he believes it to be.  What worse fate than to be denied that which he sold his soul for?  Unless of course....it complies under the pretense of a swift send off to his masters?"
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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:24 pm

Marius turns his glowing eyes upon Ichorst.

"It is a suggestion not without merit, but it's largest weakness is the difficulty of the process. To cleanse one who has sold his soul to dark forces is not an easy task, and requires many unique factors. The most important of which we would likely have to bond this wretch for anyway. Conversion requires a willing spirit and a desire for redemption. This thing would only be willing if bound to us. Now, as for simply convincing it that it has been cleansed, that could be effective or not. It would be a gamble. It is likely that it would know inherently if it's connection to it's Infernal master had been interrupted."

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Ichorst the Emissary on Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:32 pm

"A pity, it had a certain theatricality to it. If indeed it is a consort of Hell, it likely doesn't much care about the application of torture. Bonding seems to be necessary in any scenario then. To at least loosen it. Chemicals have been mentioned, would it be possible to addict this thing to a substance, and deprive it until it is willing to trade the desired information for allowances to indulge?"
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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Giric on Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:34 pm

"We are all already addicted to one thing, blood.  Deny the creature this until it begins to shrivel in on itself, giving it just enough at the end that it can awake each day to a body filled with a crazed desire to sate it's hunger, but unable to move for the stake through it's heart.  

Of course addicting it to other things at the same time would certainly compound it's anguish when it become denied these."

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by CountessaValenciaMontalvo on Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:14 am

This would be well and good to make sure the creature doesn't leave, but I believe our Prince wants it to be able to ask it questions and if it is too crazed with hunger, wouldn't it be difficult to receive those answers? Without someone who can actually read their minds we need it to be able to articulate.

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by Giric on Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:24 am

"The point is not to ask it questions while it is in such a state, but to slowly break it's will to resist.  I will admit that such attempts generally take longer than this gathering may want to spend.  But they do have proven results in our history.  

Other, faster routes, may be taken through powers of the blood.  Either reading his mind, commanding him to speak only to truthfully answer your questions, or swaying his emotions so he is overcome with eagerness to serve someone.   If none of these options are possessed by this court, then we can attempt to bring in a specialist from one of our clans to conduct the interrogation for us.  The only concern is that the longer we keep it in captivity, the greater chance of it's potential escape."

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Re: Interrogation of a Baali

Post by CountessaValenciaMontalvo on Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:35 am

I believe a faster approach may be wise. Before we begin, I would like to know exactly who will be present for the interrogation. I would assume this will be more of a small affair.

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